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Well, guys, here's the schpiel. Verizon confirms that they are testing out a CDMA version of the next iPhone that is scheduled to come out this summer. And since Apple's contract with AT&T is expiring this year, it is likely that the iPhone will also come to tMobile. And Sprint with its 4g network? Doesn't look very good for the iPhone right now. You can google the iPhone 4g and you'll see where I got all this. So what do you think? Should the iPhone just stick with AT&T and play safe or should it be spread to different networks?
This is what I heard.
Remixman: What! RT @DSLReports Analyst: No Verizon iPhone Until 2011 - AT&T/Apple extended exclusivity another six months... http://dlvr.it/pyH0
Exclusivity deals suck, but Verizon and Apple would deserve each other as they're both control freak organizations. Would like to see iPhone on TMobile and elsewhere though
Yeah, verizon would be receiving the iPhone at a later date because they're still testing out their CDMA version of it. And yes, it's true, Verizon is a control freak, so Apple would do well with it. lol
lol i talked 2 a represenative and she said she doesnt no if there goin 2 come out with 1 or not. i hope they do!!
It would be cool, but that would mean that I'd have to get rid of my license of mobile speak and mobile geo.:( Hmmm,
Yeah, you'd have to, but the nice thing is that VoiceOver comes built into the iPhone just like the Mac, so you don't have to orry about payments just for a screen reader. Hats off to Apple for implementing VoiceOver built into the iPhone, the iPod touch, and the iPad.
I completely agree with that.:)
And to the second post, the post about the iPhone not comming to Verizon until 2011 is just speculation right now. We're not even sure if it'll come to Verizon at all, though a CDMA version of the iPhone is currently being tested.
What does CDMA stand for?? I have att now, if they don't extend their contract with apple, or renew it, should I worry?? I have the i phone 3gs right now.
Here's an update on the next iPhone. It WILL be launched on June 22, and new rumors are surfacing that Verizon will not have the iPhone until 2012 due to Apple's iPad that's also with AT&T. But don't be upset yet because it hasn't even been revealed or anything like that. This is all speculation.
Does anyone know of any new features on the 4 g, or any updates?? I'm hoping to get it in December when I'm eligable for an upgrade.
The biggest promising change will be your ability to multitask, aka talk and text at the same time, download something and send an email at the same time, and the like.
Only an OS supported by the isolated artificial fishbowl known as fandom / religious fanaticism could survive in the 21st century without multitasking, but now apparently even the Apple Fanboy support wasn't enough to keep a single-task phone alive.
The $25 messaging phones on the market can multitask, and your iPhone 4.0 will finally be able to.
I think that it is a good idea that Apple is going to be working with Verizon. I am glad to know that Apple is open to working with other carriers at some point once there exclusive contract with ATT ends. I heard a recent survey from consumer reports that rated Verizon as the best cell phone carrier for customer service and quality. And as I remember it rated ATT as the worst of the four major providers. Here is a link to the overview of the report.
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine-archive/2010/january/electronics-computers/cell-phone-service/overview/cell-phone-service-ov.htm
Verizon is the most reliable network out there. It works better than At&T does as far as coverage goes. Another new feature that will be introduced into the iPhone is a front face camera for video chat. It probably will also have a dual core processor.
Verizon is like fish: you either have great or terrible experience with them.
I had the latter.
Well, I've heard a lot of bad things about AT&T, so I'm sure Verizon is better than them. Verizon works in more areas than AT&T.
it just depends. my mom has had att for like 10 years or even before att. it was bellsouth or something. or no cingular yeah. she loves them. me on the other hand hate them because with those fees they add on they might as well charge to make a freaking call. I hope the Iphone comes to t-moble.
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I agree with jsears1986, I have team moble just switched from sprint to them and love it. I to am hoping that apple brings the Iphone to other networks as well.
You guys can say I'm wrong or stupid or something like that, but the iPhone WILL be coming to Verizon in November. Want to see the article?
Click this link.
Well, we'll see when November comes.:)
I certainly wouldn't wager my life savings that it'll happen.
I'm not.:) Trust me!
if that is true i find it kind of funny that verizon is spending so much money and time promoting the new droyed phones now and then in 7 months supposedly they will have the new IPhone that will be better than the droyed.
That is odd. Hmmm,
I think we would all like the iPhone on other networks spread the conjestion around in stead of just hammering one network with a ton of traffic, However i am sure AT&T is doing every thing in its power to keep Apple fat and happy and exclusive to them. However even before OS 4 the iPhone could do basic multi tasking with stuff that came with the phone its the stuff in the app store you couldn't multitask with .. So in other words u could text while on the phone or download something while listening to iTunes before OS 4 came out .
iPhone better than the droid? Wow that is fandom. Both have Linux kernels for sure, but the droid phones were and are a lot more robust, though the iPhone 3GS and later are pretty good devices. The early iPhones were a flop but most in the blinkosphere wouldn't have known about it I guess because of accessibility. Only us technology people.
Yeah, I've also heard that Foxcon is making a chip for the CDMA version of the iPhone 4G
Well, now that the iPhone 4 has come out, it doesn't look like they'll be coming to Verizon for a while now, which isn't really a surprise. And for those who like to generalize a lot and say that the iPhone 4 isn't good because it loses it's signal when you're holding it, Apple says it's not an issue, and the loss of signal is due to the new case that Apple came out with. Technology has its flaws and I'm sure all that stuff will be corrected.
And if it were a Win Mo phone, the response wouldn't be 'technology has it's problems ...' it'd be 'Look what Microsoft overlooked' ... just interesting to see how the various groups react imho
Treu only apple could get away with telling people its not a flaw you are just holding it wrong, But if you are thinking of getting an iPhone don't let that stop you cuz if you know anything about apple customer service if this is a bug that gets fixed in a design mod in the next batch of iPhones manufactured if yours has the bug you should be able to just go swap it out at an apple store or etc.
Robo, Not necessarrally a fair comparison since, Microsoft really just started making actual devices, but I'll tell you, I bought an hp 6510 when they first came out back in 2005, running windows mobile 5, and there was a small piece of rubber on the back of my phone right where my thumb always landed as I was talking, the moment very exact moment my finger touched this spot, good bye call. NOt only this, I can recall a nokia I had back in 2001 before talking phones ETC, very similar situation where bye if I gripped the phone a certain way, all signal was lossed.
You're hearing about this because it's apple and the phones are loved, and hated by the masses. I'm sure this could have all been emplomented differently, but for everyone to simpley pretend as if this is never been around on devices before, and all apple. meh not even.
actually its true if the windows devices had drop call's we would all hear about it. I have an HTc pro2 and it does very well with team mobles network. yes the touch screen lags but I like the option of having a touch screen and a keyboard at the same time. Just food for thought, if your going to compair windows based phones please do it with the latest O.S. Which happens to bee windows 6.5.
Starfly, obviously you missed my point. I'm very aware of what the Latest mobile OS is, currently I have 5 windows MO devices sitting on my desk none of which happen to be an apple iPhone. My point was, it's hard to compare windows Mobile to an iPhone, because apple essintially makes hardware an software something until lately wasn't done by Microsoft. SO, while obviously you have a prefference for a touch screen/device with a built-in keyboard which BTW there is nothing at all wrong with this, my point was the fact that it's apple, draws more attention to a devices flaws then let's say an HTC tilt or a motorola q. As I said earlier this is no excuse for the design, but I still think that this probably happens in phones much more than covered by "tech news"
I'll admit that was a bit of a forked comparison, and you're right in 2005 several HP devices, and around 2000 / 2001 several Nokia devices, had this problem. Nobody gave them a pat on the head.
And the more I think about it, it's not so much that 'Oh, they're Apple', except by the religious Apple folks, but that they have played the underdog for so long. I'm not saying *been* but *played*.
They were the underdog for sure, but now that they're playing with the big boys, they're gonna have to ditch the kiddy pullup and put on some pants / deal with consumer issues on an enterprise level.
BlackFairy had plenty of raw nastiness when they first came out, revolution 1 and 2, but I'll tell ya they fixed it, and that's one good reason large corp customers buy them: because their users can basically run it till it dies no problems. This Oratio business leaves a lot to be desired, nobody who's an enterprise customer / manhandling huge amounts of data is gonna tolerate system crashes that result in having to swipe the blackberry. I only bring this into it, because it doesn't pay to act like the little boy.
I think Apple will fix the problem for sure, but it always takes awhile. Serious problems that were unprecedented in mobile phones were a daily problem on the first iPhones (before the blinkosphere knew about them), and they responded lethargically in a way Blackberry and even HP or Samsung wouldn't dare.
And that proves my point that not every phone is perfect. It's not like the folks are Apple are like Gods who make everything perfect. And yes, Apple is really playing with the big boys now, especially Microsoft, because they're coming out with the Windows phone 7 series at the end of this year, which has a whole bunch of new features. Hopefully Apple can survive that one. Seriously.
Well, I got the mac news app for my iPod touch, which by the way is accessible with VoiceOver. There is now some speculation that the iPhone might come to Verizon in January of 2011, but nothing has been confirmed yet. If that does happen, Apple will have to come up with a very powerful version of it's iPhone battery because Verizon's 4g network is going to be very powerful. It will be about 10 times faster than this one, and that requires more power from the iPhone's battery.
I don't think the speed of the data network is gonna drain the battery any faster than a slower data neter work would. And apple isn't making the phones any bigger so i doubt you are gonna see any hugely improved battery life anything more than an hour or so here or there improvements. However there are plenty of cases for th eiPhone t tat has built in battery paccks that doesn't make the phone much thicker than it is now and gives you another 8+ hrs to run the phone. and they aren't bad for $60 or less seen ones for as little as $20 that people have good luck with.
What kase are you talking about? I wouldn't mind getting one... I just brought my Iphone home a couple days ago... Love it!!!
did u get a 3GS or iPhone 4? the inexpensive ones for $20 are on monoprice.com but last i checked it was 3G and 3GS only i don't know if they would fit the iPhone 4 or not also Mophie and fastmac makes some good cases as well they are the brand name ones most people i hear using.
here is a pretty good blog article i found on the aspect of the IPhone coming to Verizon. One thing it points out is the latest Droyed adds are mocking the IPhones problems. Here is a link to the article.
http://www.usanewsweek.com/blog/will-verizon-carry-iphone-4-in-2011-while-mocking-it-in-droid-x-ad-now-1278470480/
This link will take you directly to that article.
But here's the thing. The intenna issue has nothing to do with the intenna. It's the gauge thingy that is inaccurate when it comes to how many bars of signal you have. So some of that article is based off ofgeneral evidence that really isn't true anymore.
oh yeah and the other limitation of a CDMA network like verizone is u can't talk on the phone and use your wireless data at the same time, so if you are doing something and u get a phone call it will kill your internet connection till th ecall is over, so forget about looking stuff while on the phone unless u have wi fi
I doubt the I Phone will come to Verizon and if it does it will be no where near the same as it is now I think it's better off expanding to T-mobile since I don't think much would have to change since T-mobile already has sim cards.
For t mobile they would have to make another slightly altered SKU with t mobile's 2200 gsm band supported. On the verizon side, they would have to swap out the gsm radio for a cdma radio and find some way to manage the battery life of the phone better. Cdma devices drain more battery because of how the device radio's opperate. In many ways, from a marketing standpoint, it doesn't make much sense to have an I phone on verizon. Verizon champions android devices, they've for the most part marketed the most strongly android with a smattering of blackberry and win mo devices. Many verizon execs when interviewed either don't like the thought of a verizon iphone or don't see it as a comitment they would like to realisticly committ to at least until their 4 g network roles out. Which should happen by the end of this year. Seeing as verizon and apple don't really seem to see eye to eye about the I phone and Jobs is an all or nothing person, Who knows how it would turn out.
The only reason to put an iphone on verizon is the fact it would bring in more money for apple mainly. Serveys state that 15 percent of verizons user base would switch to an I phone if they could on their network. Most people claim that the phone would be so much better on verizon because verizon has a better network but what people forget is that at I phone launch, AT&T had the best network and look how this has turned out. The only thing that will happen is we'll have 2 moderately congested networks instead of one staggeringly congested network. So, honestly, I think I will laugh when people start bitching about verizon network congestion because they didn't see it comeing. Verizon would have had the same problem already if android was seen as more of a general perpous platform, rather than the high tech more built for gadget lovers appearence it has.
Sorry about the spelling errors, I didn't have much time to write this out and correct it.
actually i think the tmobile 3G bands are 1700 and 2100 not 2200, but anyways As i may have mentioned above CDMA can't do data and voice at the same time so u woulsn't be able to surf the net or check your email while talking on the phone unless you had wi fi, which can come in handy if you ever neded to varify some information or something while on the go. This is however a limitation of the CDMA network and if verizon switches to a GSM type network then i do believe that this would be more likely. I think the potential of an diPhone on verizon would bring in enough money that verizon may be willing to lay off on all the crap they put on their locked phones. Notice how the iPhone has less AT&T bloatware than most other AT&T locked phones? And the only reason verizon is pushing Android and blackberrys so hard is because they don't have and iPhone So they ae gonna tout what they have that can hang with the iPhone toe to toe. And wouldn't we all rather 2 or 3 conjested networks than just the one I for one wouldn't mind freeing up some bandwith on the AT&T network.
Well, if I had to choose between AT&T and Verizon, I'd probably choose AT&T because it has that 7 meg internet stuff that Verizon doesn't. And sur, Verizon i coming out with an LTE network that will make it's network about 10 times faster than it already is, but of course, as I said before, it would put more drain on the battery on the iPhone as well as other phones. However, it must be noted that AT&T is also coming out with its own LTE network as well, so there's obviously going to be some competition. I highly doubt that Sprint will ever get the iPhone, but I guess we'll have to see. TMobile, on the other hand, might have the potentia of getting it, but I don't see that happening for another couple of years or so.
Who knows, Unless another survice provides more data then i'm sticking with ATT. Though, I really should have baught a 3gs 30 days before and then switched out to an iphone 4.
I have to pay that $500 security deposit, so I'm just waiting for a little more money to come in so I can get that iPhone. And that'll happen this Friday, so it's exciting. And 2 gb of data is more than enough data, so it's really nothing to worry about, unless you stream videos and things like that constantly, which hardly anybody does. So don't worry too much about that 2 gb of data stuff.
my phone off vzw has the ability to switch between CDMA and GSM instantly as it comes preloaded with a sim card. not sure if it's because of that or not, but i can use data and be in a call at once, no issues at all. As for vzw getting the IPhone, i truly have to agree with others, they are android people now, and windows phone 7 a little which won't work for the blind what so ever. Sad to say, i may be going to AT&t, possibly. not sure on that yet
From what's been said about VZW, because of how they renigged on their origional kin deals and genraly didn't make for the best partners with microsoft, they will probably not be getting anything windows phone seven at launch.
And because AT&T's 3g network is faster than Verizon's, I would think that it's a posibility that At&T's LTE network will be faster than Verizon's as well. Guess we'll have to see about that.
where do u live ratt and which phone are u using on the verizone network.? the only reason there would be a sim in a verizon phone is if you were using it on an international network, verizon i don't believe have hany deals to roam on gsm networks. you sure you aren't using wi fi when you are talking and using data at the same time?
no he is write the htc ozone comes that way if that is what he has cause i no mine does
Yeh, but if I remember correctly, the sim is for out of country roming, weird if its used for in country as I'm truely not sure how vzw would let you use it. Like steve, I don't think they have any GSM partnerships. Think about it, I can't really see vzw going to AT&T (their biggest rival) and asking for a gsm partnership because of them having the largest coverage area. I'm not sure that T mobile would really be equipped to help them out either.
it can't be my wi-fi, as i've never added my phone in to it, and i'm using the touch pro 2. i know it has a sim because of how ms acts on it compared to other pones i've seen, plus reading the manual. there has to be more than CDMA involved with this though if i'm able to to do data and calls at once though.
sprint has a similar phone like that as well. You could use other cym cards like those pre paid ones and it works without having to pay those rediculous international fees verizon has.
just out of curiousity what are you refering to as data? waht kind of data can you use while on the phone.? Well thats what the sim is for when u travel internationally you can put a sim card from that country in there and use a local plan instead of paying the high international roaming charges that your us carrier will charge you . the down side of curse being that people can't call your usual phone number and reach u.
Well, if you heard the press conference that Apple held yesterday, they do indicate that this intenna issue stuff is only affecting a small percentage of people. So the question is: Why the hell is this bull crap being blown so out of proportion? It's just totally ridiculous. Steve Jobs had explicitly stated that phones aren't perfect, and I totally agree with him on that statement because, obviously, there are other phones that have the same issue. So if the other phones have the same issue, why didn't anybody make a big stink out of that? This is where it all doesn't make sense to me. They're making a big stink out of an iPhone with those issues, but not the other phones that have the same issues? Some people really need to grow up and perhaps get some psychiatric help if they need it.
listen to the I phone 4 antenna song on youtube, it explains it.
i think most peopple never knew where the antenas was in there phones an thus didn't realize it till the iPhone 4 came out. That being said its selling like hotcakes and every one wants to drag someone down when they are hot or doing well . like stryker said check out the antenna song on youtube, enough said.
More rumors have been spread that Apple is buying some CDMA chips for a Verizon iPhone to start production in December, but that hasn't been confirmed yet. But oh well, I'm not even going to try to mess with the Verizon iPhone if it ever comes out. I have concerns about the battery life because of the iPhone needing more radios for Verizon's CDMA technology. At&T and the iPhone 4 is good enough for me. lol
apple will probably sort that shbeel out with the battery.